Circumventing password when using Siri to operate door?

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I have successfully installed the MyQ bridge on my Craftsman Assurelink opener, and can control my door through HomeKit.  I have an AppleTV, along with an iPhone 7 and an Apple Watch.  

When I ask Siri through my watch to operate the door, she does so promptly.  If I'm not wearing my watch and I ask Siri through my iPhone or iPad, it requires me to unlock my device first.  This doesn't make sense to me.  If I wanted to be bothered to walk across the room and unlock my phone, I might as well just then open the door "manually" through the phone,  defeating the purpose of having Siri in the first place.  No other HomeKit device I own requires me to unlock my phone when using Siri.

Does anyone have a workaround for this?
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David

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Wayland Kramer

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Thats because, when on your wrist, your watch is already unlocked. It would not be smart to circumvent this security.
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Scott Smith

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Try, the following, I am not anywhere where I can test right now or not. But ...

Settings >
Passcode Lock >
Allow Access When Locked >
See if Home Control is ticked as being allowed.
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David

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Yes, it is already ticked as being allowed.... darn it.  I thought you might be on to something....
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Michael Maulucci

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This is actually a requirement for security with Apple.  Your other devices may not make you do this, but all doors and locks do.  This is also the same with my August door lock.  
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David

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I was afraid of something like that.  I was going to get an August lock next, but may hold off.

As I approach my home by car, I have a scene instructing Siri, through Apple CarPlay, to open garage door and turn on certain lights.  Now she tells me I have to unlock my phone, and that she doesn't recommend I do that while driving.  

I understand the extra level of security Apple is looking for, but it is defeating some of the convenient functionality.  And what happens when I get the HomePod?  Will I have to walk over and touch it?  

I wish Apple would let us decide how much security we want, or don't want.
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Scott Smith

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I tested today, Siri from my locked phone would open and close my doors as a whole (both) or singularly, while connected to my WLAN or on LTE. I am running iOS 11 Beta on an iPhone 6. No prompt for passcode or unlock.
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Scott Smith

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I should add the Apple TV is a gen 3 running GA iOS, not beta.
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David

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So, since I'm still on iOS 10, are you thinking that this will change with iOS 11?  That seems to be the only major difference...
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Scott Smith

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It's possible. Here are the settings for Privacy > HomeKit and PassCode
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David

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Yes, I also have all those on under: Settings> Touch ID & Passcode, as well as on under HomeKit.  Here's hoping it will be more cooperative under iOS 11.  Hopefully they release it Tuesday...
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David, in this instance we are sacrificing a bit of convenience for better security. We felt is was very important to have users go through the extra step of unlocking their phones before opening the garage door in order to help ensure the correct person is gaining access to your home. I hope this makes sense. Lauren 
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Thanks Lauren,   This is actually very important for me,  specially with iOS 11s control panel, and how you can access home app without unlocking the phone.  I don't care if someone finds/takes my phone and plays around with my lights, but gaining access to my house is another story.  and with touch ID, I just have to place my finger/thumb on the home button, so its not like I even need to be looking and punch in a code.   My only issue im having is my apple watch seems to not want to open the garage or connect to the garage when using siri, I end up having to pull my phone out to use siri with the garage.
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Lauren,

I appreciate your reply. Yes, that does make sense to me, as I see people like Michael appreciates the added security. I, however, do not. Most people now have a transmitter clipped to their sun visor that to me is far less secure than the Siri function on my phone.

Still, everyone has a different threshold... so instead of deciding for us, why don't you give us the option? Michael can have his level of security, and I can have my convenience of Siri, CarPlay, scenes, geofencing etc. isnt convenience what this bridge is all about in the first place? Until I have that, this bridge has become a nuisance to me, as it interferes with all my existing scenes I've added the garage door to.

I will wait until next week for final iOS 11 to see if this improves before returning the bridge, but I'm not hopeful.

And I was so excited about finally getting this...

Very disappointed,
David Dirnberger
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Scott Smith

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There is a Public Beta, it's not just for devs at this point. It's solid, no issues, though it will slow an iPhone 6 down quit a bit. https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/

Just a warning any app you use that has not been updated for 64bit will not run on iOS 11+
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I’m running the latest developer ios11 and still have to unlock my phone when using Siri to open doors. I’m using a 7plus and Touch ID is on. Strange thing is though that my August lock will unlock the door without unlocking the phone when I’m using proximity (when I enter my neighborhood) but if I try to use Siri it asks for the password.
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Scott Smith

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That is odd Michael, as my geoFence does require unlock but Siri does not.
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David

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Scott,

You seem to have the opposite experiences of Michael... I'm waiting for the official iOS 11 next week and hope things get better. But from what Lauren said, it seems like I'll be returning this bridge. No sense having $50 worth of something that just aggravates me. Many thanks to you, Michael, and everyone for your input. I'll keep playing over the weekend to fool the system somehow.
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I don’t understand why you can’t open the garage door through CarPlay without having to unlock iPhone first I can press a button in my car and open it without having to enter a security code (whereas if I were to able to do it through CarPlay, my iPhone would have to be in the car and connected it - to me that’s almost like multi factor authentication - more than you get from just pushing the button. It would be great to have a scene that includes opening the garage door and turning on some lights)